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existential threat

authenticity is completely fictitious and any argument about whether something is genuine is stupid and pointless
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@ikeWren respectfully. What do you mean by this?
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@yohan an identical copy of a thing is exactly as authentic as the original
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@ikeWren @yohan but unless the original thing is a piece of digital data, no copy is actially identical
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@yakmacker @yohan true . a lot of things get very close though
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@ikeWren @yakmacker but never exact... and come to think of it thats probably the actual point you are making
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@yohan @yakmacker yeah any individual thing is as legitimate as any other thing which is not at all . if a thing simulates another thing there's no meaningful value difference between the two
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@ikeWren @yohan @yakmacker jean beaudrillard: "well, uh, actually"

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@yohan @yakmacker this applies to gender in a pretty obvious way . a lot of assimilationists try to redefine trans people as Genuine Women/Men and fail to recognize that such a thing doesn't exist and never has , and perpetuating the construct of authenticity is necessarily exclusionary to anything that doesnt fit the ideal . it's also important to note that the construct of authenticity carries with it an (in my opinion irreversibly established) value judgment ; the Genuine Article is better than its simulant
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@shinyjirachi @yohan @yakmacker my stance agrees with baudrillard . the simulacrum is true
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@ikeWren @yohan @yakmacker yeah okay. i guess i should read a book before i reference it

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@ikeWren @shinyjirachi @yakmacker i kinda just don't think it matters tbh. As an artificial woman
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@shinyjirachi @yakmacker @yohan upon some reflection this is kind of basically worse baudrillard from first principles . i should really just shut the fuck up tbh
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@yohan maybe . idk , my worldview is frustratingly internally-contradictory and i feel like it needs a massive overhaul . the only things that i consistently believe in are the centrality of love and anti-dualism
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@ikeWren you're still cool and id like to hear your thoughts
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