saw discussion of futanari on my tl and it reminded me of yesterday when i saw some “rahu futa” art and its just a canonically tall, dog-coded woman drawn there with a realistically-sized penis being called a good girl and idk that just seems like a different phenomenon entirely at that point.

im less worried about the artist being a hentaibrained gooner and more worried about her being a chaser (especially since rahu was topping)

@lizzie the secret is that the venn diagram is almost a circle

@ikeWren ehhhh. i was expecting a comment like this but i think theres a difference in how they put it into practice. its concentric circles not one single circle

@lizzie true ...

@lizzie yeah there's obvious problematic art and obvious chaser art but it can be done tastefully. I never see that done tastefully though so this is just a theory.

@monkey honestly the art in question was fine

@lizzie @ikeWren one big wet paint splat on top of another bigger wet paint splat

@lizzie you found the diamond in the rough waow

@lizzie I mean honestly that sounds like a based pic in general lol

@monkey @lizzie we need to reclaim futanari art from the cis

@ophis @ikeWren yeah exactly

@lizzie i like the women with the unrealistically huge penises because i imagine they're me.

@Alsvid @lizzie thoughts on the work of Ray Blanchard?

@FagMode59er @lizzie i don't hold with Ray "I think Sissy Hypno Is Real and it Could Happen To You" Blanchard, and feel he is unworthy of being thought about

@Alsvid @lizzie i think it kind of is ngl. also he;s very attractive,,,

@Alsvid @lizzie also, look at this: https://defcon.social/@MossGrowsOnNormanRuins/116845360989978629

@FagMode59er @lizzie Pretty sure Mr. Blanchard was conflating consensual kink play with real world phenomena there. There is nothing I've seen that suggests to me it affects anyone in the way he described, or that it "reinforces autogynephilic ideas"; even asserting that AGP is a thing that has basis in reality is a bit fantastical for me. It really feels like he saw two adults doing some sort of kink play and said "That's it, I've Figured Out How Transgender Works".

@FagMode59er @lizzie this explains a lot

@Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie Tfw some psychologist in the 70s describes my kink in detail (I'm a guy btw) and psychologists get together and torture women with it for 50 years (not my kink).

@Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie Blachard is kind of a paradox though because if you hate being called AGP because you're actually a woman, you're labelled AGP. But if you're a guy and like being called AGP because you're just a little freak that likes being cute, you're HSTS. Makes no sense, isn't therapy supposed to make you feel better instead of coming up with new slurs to insult you with?

@NotAFemboy @FagMode59er @lizzie That's just one example of how his ideas don't make sense.

Rapid Onset Gooner Dysphoria or whatever it's called is another.

I can't take someone seriously who talks about "The Homosexual Transgender", sorry.

He's just another freak like John Money to me.

@Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie Doc, I jorked it too hard and it broke my brain, I'm trans now. Ok here's hormones, we'll schedule pp cut off day in a month. -how transphobes think gender transition works

@Alsvid @NotAFemboy @lizzie ROGD was made by lisa littman not blanchard smh

@NotAFemboy @FagMode59er @lizzie

It's more of the "gay people are disgusting perverts who choose to Sin again God and Their Bodies instead of being wholesome family-minded chungi" mode of thought, really.

He wants so bad for us to be swooning with fear over The Pervert Who Transitions To Do Sexual Stuff and Cums When Putting On A Dress.

@NotAFemboy @Alsvid @FagMode59er its true i was the penis that got cut off a month later

@Alsvid @NotAFemboy @lizzie i think its inarguable though that there are some people who are sexually aroused by the idea of being women though, and some of these people go on to identify as transgender, i just think it's not likely that AGP vs HSTS (vs MEF for the discerning blanchardist) are the only categories or the primary motivations for transition, also how AGP differs between cis men, trans women and cis women ideally would be looked into much deeper in a world where it wasn't just used as government ammunition against trans women

@Alsvid @NotAFemboy @lizzie also iirc blanchard is in favour of hrt for AGP minors, opposes discrimination against them and thinks an A should be added to the LGBTQ+ acronym, he's not as chudded out as everyone thinks he is smh

@FagMode59er @NotAFemboy @lizzie

>i think its inarguable though that there are some people who are sexually aroused by the idea of being women though, and some of these people go on to identify as transgender

I'm sure there are some outliers but I don't think it means anything really, or at least is not as earth-shakingly meaningful as he would have you believe.

@Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie Hey now, I resemble that statement.

In all seriousness it's so dumb, identity, kinks and sexually predatory behavior are not at all connected, but they want you to believe that they're all part of a logical progression that a kink fucks with identity and identity struggles lead to predatory behavior (I mean I suppose this *can* be an issue for people who are ideologically opposed to therapy or even talking this stuff out with trusted friends, but that's kind of the fault of a culture that sees sex for any purpose other than procreation to be "evil", if you're even remotely well adjusted you can easily tell the difference between fantasy, identity and hurting people).

@lizzie @Alsvid @FagMode59er You heard it here folks, Lizzie is Aphrodite Urania.

@lizzie @Alsvid @FagMode59er Although if she's Aphrodite Urania she should be posting Yaoi instead of Yuri smh

@Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie hypnosis is kinda real (outside of consensual or kink situations) but “making people girls” is just about the least significant or notable thing it could be used for

@Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie Sort of tangentially related to the topic of whether Futa is chuddy. Is a forcefem comic where a guy turns another guy into his gf yaoi or hetslop? (Honestly it's kind of my favorite dynamic, so long as cuckery doesn't enter the picture as it so unfortunately often does, and I'm unbothered by either answer)

@angelmoder @FagMode59er @lizzie

Precisely.

Also, you're laughing if you expect me to believe "compilation of heterosexual porn combined with Sony Vegas effects, lofi hiphop, and a robotic woman tonelessly saying you're a faggot for big dicks" is what anything resembling what 'real' hypnosis is like. Please be so serious right now!

And I'm skeptical about whether hypnosis is real to begin with.

@Alsvid @angelmoder @lizzie i dont think hypnosis porn works as hypnosis i think in general all media is somewhat hypnotic and porn is the most (though tbh porn that poses as hypnosis is probably less effective), its all about the neural pathways that people are strengthening each time they're jerking off to something

@FagMode59er @angelmoder @lizzie

not sure if that's real at all, chief

@Alsvid @angelmoder @lizzie i just think people can give themselves fetishes by jerking off to the same thing again and again and it changes the way they think about things, its like, guys that get addicted to bwno stuff probably have their politics and worldview affected by that too

@FagMode59er @angelmoder @lizzie

> its like, guys that get addicted to bwno stuff probably have their politics and worldview affected by that too


BNWO stuff, as you call it, and largely the whole realm of interracial porn comes from very, very old scientific racism dating back to Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade days about how black people are sexually superior to white people and therefore must be curtailed.

They kept a black woman in a zoo because her ass was upsettingly large for all the white people looking at her.

Later on they would make racemixing illegal for similar reasons.

I don't know as the Influential Thinkers back then got inspired to do all that by jorkin it to bnwo as you're saying here.

@FagMode59er @angelmoder @lizzie It's so funny how you're exactly 50% right here. Yes, sexual fear of black people informed political decisions; no, it didn't just crop up yesterday on the BNWO subreddit and has been a potent driver of people's worldviews and politics for a very long time. If anything it's less so now than it was back then.

@Alsvid @angelmoder @lizzie i'm not saying its the origin of racism of course, i just think that the people regularly jerking off to racist porn multiple times per day aren't being made less racist by it

@FagMode59er @Alsvid @lizzie yeah no thats not what im talking about with real hypnosis

what i mean by kinda-real hypnosis here is more like… weird word tricks that slightly influence someone without them noticing (and for that matter im not sure how conmon it is, i just know ive seen things before where i feel very strongly like theres something hypnosis-like going on)
and actual hypnosis is also something done more with words than anything else, everything else is just a tool to make the words more effective

@FagMode59er @Alsvid @lizzie i think this is just the “””degeneracy””” meme again btw
“ohhh they have politics that are Bad™ because they like sex stuff thats Bad™” “society’s problems are caused by people getting off to weird things” be fuckin for real, surely you can come up with a better cause than that

@FagMode59er @Alsvid @lizzie also i can confirm firsthand that the good hypnosis porn hypnotizes you a lot better than non-hypnosis porn (although worth noting, most of it isnt irl porn or shitty gimmick spirals)

@angelmoder @Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie I guess I need to up my degeneracy as I haven't watched enough porn to encounter what you're talking about. The whole "Cult of Priapus" thing with the guy saying "I will serve COCK" with the shitty spiral and pics of big dicks is about as crazy as I've gotten. (They were really good looking dicks though)

@NotAFemboy @Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie well yea, if youre “watching” porn youre probably never gonna find it, youve gotta look at art and audios and stories for anything actually good

the focus is, uh, probably very different though; theres basically no “ouhhh cock” bullshit (minor exceptions for some less good text posts actually), it.. i feel like “hypnosis porn” and “sissy hypnosis porn” are two completely different things, honestly

@angelmoder @Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie I was kinda sad that yellow google banned hypno content, but then the whole site required ID verification a few weeks later and I didn't give enough of shit to find a workaround so I just quit using porn since then (except when someone posts a really good doujin here, which is rare).

@angelmoder @Alsvid @FagMode59er @lizzie Sounds interesting, probably not going to be something I'll find in a brick and mortar sex shop unfortunately, which is kind of what I'm leaning toward nowadays, the internet has too much trash for me to have to sift through just to bust a nut.

@ophis @lizzie @ikeWren "paint"

@ophis @ikeWren @lizzie you're wrenching me? buddy you provided the setup!

@coolbean @ikeWren @lizzie sometimes paint

is just paint

@ophis @ikeWren @lizzie yes, yes, big ol glops of white paint and nothing more