What is this weird attitude people have that putting in effort during exercise is somehow a bad thing? Complaining about not being quiet as a mouse in the gym, or people looking strained while cycling i've seen a lot

@snacks It's a misandrist psyop, like shaming men for spreading their legs

@druid nah, the cycling thing i heard yesterday from my stepdad and hes sure af not misandrist

@snacks Sure, but that's how psyops work - they start and they spread beyond the initial scope.

I was half joking, but I really do think the "ugh, don't grunt when you lift weights, chuddy" thing starts there

@druid yeah, the weighlifting thing i can def see

@druid @snacks god youre an idiot

@fiore @snacks I knew this post would get someone butt hurt. Cry about it.

@druid @snacks youre a sad lonely loser and i do pity you

@druid @fiore @snacks your entire account is just reposting porn 😭 get a grip

@nagirin @fiore @snacks I'd rather do that than dog piling.

@druid @fiore @snacks lol

@fiore @snacks You banned SHADERS from your Minecraft server, your opinion means nothing

@druid @snacks lmao

@druid @fiore @snacks fiore banned shaders from her server???

@nagirin @druid @snacks imagine wanting your block game to have hyperrealistic water and lighting

@fiore @druid @snacks minecraft fans when you say you'd rather play the game with the very deliberate artistic vision instead of frying your GPU rendering sun shafts and water puddles that look insanely out of place

@nagirin @druid @snacks literally

@fiore @druid @snacks Genuinely looks better too imo, with shaders you lose a sorta charm that the actual game has. If I want to look at stunning light effects I have this cool place called "google images" or even if I'm daring, "outside of my flat"

@nagirin @druid @snacks its funny because the people using hyperrealistic shaders are also the ones complaining that mojang ruined minecraft by not keeping the alpha textures (which i agree were very charming)

@nagirin @fiore @snacks More like "Minecraft fans whenyou try to dictate how their experience looks clientside." Weird control freak shit.

@druid @nagirin @snacks im so happy you take my orders so seriously <3

@fiore @nagirin @druid telling people what their game should look like is kinda wahck ngl

@druid @fiore @snacks A minecraft server should be a cohesive experience actually, so people's builds actually fit together and look cohesive and everyone has the same experience lol.

Also lol.

@snacks @fiore @druid when it's your server and your rules it as essentially become the server owners game imo

@snacks @druid hey, big hangover malibu sunrise here, maybe you cant see this because my instance actually defederated princess.wedding (because of the excess of porn) but im here to tell you a little story about how often i had to have man legs bump into my personal space (in ways i do not like) because apparently getting some air to your gooch is more important than not being a seat hogger in public.
but apparently that all falls into itself once i start competing, anytime i had a spread off with some dude on the bus, he immediately put his legs together in shame like a good little girl and that's maybe what i like about men the most, that they walk around like the world belongs to them but cry like little bitches when someone tells them that they cant let their small nuts dangle everywhere.
anyways i wanna put a man on a leash and have him lick my feet to the final countdown
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@snacks @druid @fiore high control shit, the host of the board game party doesn't let me use my own custom painted pieces, I have to use her own fascist pieces, I can't believe she's dictating my experience

@nagirin @fiore @druid i dont see why you should care what my game looks like tho unless it results in horrendous builds. Mine look horrendous regardless btw

@snacks @nagirin @druid im ngl i have literally 0 power over your client , the reason thats a rule is sk that everyone sees the same shit and a building someone wanted to make pretty doesnt look atrocious on someone elses client . but like . whatever how would i even know what youre doing

@fiore @nagirin @snacks I don't, I used BSL shaders (and journeymap) for the 5 minutes I spent looking around your weird server, before I made a polite excuse and left, thinking "this person is even more self-obsessed than they initially appeared"

@druid @nagirin @snacks yes imean you seem obsessed with me too so can you blame me

@snacks @nagirin @fiore IIRC the given reason was that turning up the brightness was cheating lol

@druid @nagirin @snacks server owner is making me place torches so that others know i already explored this cave :c so mean :c

@fiore @druid @snacks reminds me of the meme

terms of service: don't be racis

*is racist*

wtf I why was I banned

like boohoo owners have rules for the shit they run and manage and put effort into for your sake

@fiore @nagirin @snacks God, that's such a pathetic response.... I could just as easily argue that you're obsessed with me because you formed an opinion about me.

@druid @nagirin @snacks no imean i am pretty great and have an ok life and good friends and like i also pass the very low bar of not putting my horrendous disrespect for women on full display so like im pretty content with where im at !

@fiore @druid @snacks It's really not hard to be a decent human being hahah

@nagirin
@fiore @druid @snacks

Oh, it's one of these types.

@Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks puzzling how some people spend a significant portion of their life dedicated to advertising what kind of porn they like

@fiore @nagirin @snacks Don't you think it's a bit of a stretch from "shaming grunting while exercising is a misandrist psyop" to a "horrendous disrespect for women?"

I mean you don't care, this conversation has been you being desperate to shame me from the beginning.

@druid @fiore @snacks the intention wasn't to shame you but you absolutely deserve to be shamed

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks "It doesn't count as pride when it's you!"

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I don't view anyone sharing porn publicily like that as someone who deserves respect, regardless of their gender or sexual orientation. You need to quit with your pathetic victim mentality you're fucking 40 years old man.

Being a nuisance in a public shared space is a bad thing, not putting in effort. And it is possible to make gains while not slapping the weights against each other, or bellowing like you're in the throes of orgasm. In fact, if you cannot control the weights and make a minimum of sound you are likely moving them too quickly and not getting a comprehensive working of the desired muscle regions.

@Alsvid @nagirin @fiore @snacks One of the types who likes girls with dicks? Yeah. ❤️

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I hope they turn you into a eunuch

@druid @nagirin @snacks imean not that i rlly needed to, you do most of the hard work yourself

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Jesus. ANYONE sharing porn publicly? That's hardline. How insecure you must be.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks insecurity seems more like the pot calling the kettle black

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks The sane ones at best appreciate being appreciated and at worst don't care about the sexual preferences of some random guy. It's only incredibly sad people like you who take some kind of exception.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks "the sane ones" holy shit

@MalibuSunrise @druid id rather hop over and hear more of it while i take up the offer than argue because you prob mean more extreme cases than i could excuse anyway

@fiore @nagirin @snacks By doing what, joking about your weird Minecraft server and then watching you and your buddy explode?

Honest question. Do you truly believe you look like the sane participant in this conversation?

@druid @nagirin @snacks oh no homie i am NOT sane ! why would i be here having fun at your expenses if i was hahaha

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks "I know you are but what am I"? Seriously? I'm not the one who cares what you get off to.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I don't give a shit what you get off to, I don't think you should be sharing porn is all, and the fact that you saw that as a fundamental attack on your sexuality speaks volumes on how you view sex, pornography and entitlement to sex.

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Yeah, it's insane to want to hurt someone for their sexual preferences.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Maybe because you're disgusting you haven't really experienced being objectified so you lack perspective 😌

@druid @nagirin @fiore @snacks she’s not gonna fuck you bro

@fiore @nagirin @snacks You don't seem like you're having a lot of fun.

@druid @nagirin @snacks nah im relieving the stress well enough

@druid

@nagirin @fiore @snacks

So, a tranny chaser, cool.

Why are you here? To try to mack on one of us? Rizz us up, as it were?

@dangerdyke @nagirin @fiore @snacks Why would anyone want that!?

@druid @nagirin @fiore @snacks you tell me

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Yeah, it does. I believe all people are entitled to express and indulge in their sexuality. I believe all people are entitled to have a sexual dimension to their life, and I believe it's a hallmark of insecurity to be unable to tolerate that in another person. Isn't that just the fundamental principle of Pride?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I'll humour the concepts of "entitelement" and "rights" for your sake. Sure everyone has a "right" (whatever that means) to partake in sexual acts and express their sexuality. But pornography (that includes drawn!) places that relief of sexual desire upon a second party. That means you are using their sexual labour. Now that's a whole can of worms, but if you think you're entitled to pornography and the sharing and distribution of pornography, you're entitling yourself to other people's sexual labour. And that is the line I draw. You can express your sexuality all you want, but what I take issue with is specifically pornography.

@dangerdyke @nagirin @fiore @snacks I guess if they have really bad taste?

@druid @nagirin @fiore @snacks danm what a self own

@Alsvid @nagirin @fiore @snacks Not really! I have adequate sexual outlet. I'm here for presumably the same reason you are - to use the least popular form of social media.

@snacks @druid you don't wanna, I've been hiking, wearing boots and doing barefoot fighting while also not doing any foot masks and stuff

@dangerdyke @nagirin @fiore @snacks Can you read? I'm saying I don't want to fuck her. I'm saying I think only someone with bad taste would want to.

@druid @nagirin @fiore @snacks sounds like cope

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks The "sexual labour" was already performed in the creation of the pornography, which (especially when drawn) was hopefully conducted consentually and with the intention of titillating others. I'm here saying "wow that tittilation worked on me, good job."

Are you this consistent in applying your anti-porn rhetoric even with people you like? Do you badger your friends about their labour crimes if they post or boost pornography?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Man engages with basic feminism, mind instantly vapourises.

"hopefully conducted consensually" that's what labour inherently excludes. Labour isn't consensual for labour necessitates a coercive social relation. And besides just because it's laboured, past tense, doesn't mean it stops being a product of oppression in the same vein blood diamonds don't stop being blood diamonds after they're mined and polished.

Bringing up my friends is odd but yeah I don't really take nicely to it and if it's done consistently I will probably talk to them about it or unfollow. I don't really see what angle you're going for, some sort of scary hypocrisy? OoooOooh Alsvid has a pinned post that is a pornographic image big fucking deal my friends aren't paragonds upholding the exact same value system as me, I can tolerate that actually.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks The same way actors and painters are presented as enjoying the craft, people who produce porn are also presented the same way, because it turns out it's kinda icky to be presented with the reality that the vast majority of people who produce any product, especially creative or corporal in nature absolutely hate it.

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Did you really just argue that most creative people hate the creative process?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks They hate when it's commercialised, and how many people get to be true bohemian artists, fully emancipated from the need to make ends meet?

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks What you're saying might be some form of feminism, but it's also lunacy. And yes, you not being able to apply it consistently speaks to that.

For God's sake, you just compared hentai to blood diamonds, LOL.

Here's the big question, then: can labour exist without coercion? What needs to happen for that to be the case?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks abolition of the present state of things 🥰

@nagirin

@fiore @druid @snacks

Nagirin did, actually, tell me she steadfastly disapproved of porn in no uncertain terms. On more than one occasion.

It did not distress me or meaningfully impair our friendship because I am a grown ass woman

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks For what it's worth I'm entirely consistent all labour is coercive in nature, one cannot "consent" to work (moreover, I don't really believe in consent as a whole)

@Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks Good friends can disagree and be reasonable about it

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks So if we inhabited a utopia, you'd have taken no issue with me posting hentai?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks abolition of the present state of things is not a utopia, but if that word makes you comfortable then yes. The abolition of everything that presently exists also means the abolition of the social dynamics which produce pornography.

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks It was an extreme example to encompass whatever state of affairs you think would be better - I don't know your politics.

You say two different things here: Firstly that under such circumstances you would have no issue with me posting hentai (even though I'm FORTY OH NO 😱) and secondly that under such conditions pornography would not exist.

You know what I think? I don't think your views are coherent enough for this conversation. I think you came into this thread looking to dogpile because you saw a friend in distress (sorry, I meant "having fun"), latched onto the easiest attempt to shame me you could possibly make, and then when it didn't work you got cornered into explaining yourself using nonsensical political theory.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks My worldview is quite consistent actually.

Sexual labour like all labour is inherently exploitative, but unlike labouring for food or art it's not required for a human's self fulfilment and as such I do not view it as socially necessary, therefore I discourage indulgance in it. In addition to the fact that I do view it genuinely harmful to the self, the same way I am against drug usage.

I did not say that I would ever be okay with you posting porn, you put those words in my mouth, labour necessitates certain conditions to be in place, and the abolition of those conditions to make labour "fair" necessitates that labour itself goes away. The same way getting rid of racism doesn't mean making the racism "fair" it means that the racism will go away.

It's something quite extraordinary to have the hubris to both say you do not know my politics, yet also claim that my political framework is nonsensical. I have been rather consistent for the whole thread. You've just been ping ponging between various different conceptions of what I believe.

And beyond that, you are just genuinely disgusting and revolting and I wanted to be mean to you because it's fun. Fiore had nothing to do with it, she only graciously reminded me of your existence ❤️‍🩹

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Sorry, I'm not convinced. You just sound like someone who read the cliffnotes for Das Kapital and now struggles to apply them to daily life. Your worldview IS nonsensical - I don't need to know whether you'd ackshually describe yourself as a communist or an anarchist or a nietzschean bakunian or whatever other term to be able to discern that. I simply used "utopia" because I knew if I said "under communism" or whatever you'd just stance-dance into saying you're not whatever I accused you of.

I don't know what I did to get under your skin - I didn't know you at all before this horrible little interaction - but if someone like you hates me, then that makes me proud of myself. You have the gall to call me "disgusting" even while trying to shame me for basic expressions of my sexuality. And you're some kind of political lunatic to boot. Your condemnation should be a badge of honour. Thanks for increasing my self-esteem.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I'm not a Marxist nor a communist. Though using someone who reads as an insult is extremely funny.

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Thanks for doing literally what I said you'd do.

Do you have the confidence to actually declare what you ARE?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks you wouldn't like my answer

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I don't think you have one.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks And what's wrong with that?

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Cowardice? For starters.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Refusing to stamp a meaningless label about what nebulous idea of "change" I prescribe to society is not cowardice it's entirely consistent within my value system but it's not like you have the curiosity to actually consider that or ask what I believe beyond what fancy flashy meaningless label I use. If you insist the closest to me is probably a communisation theorist, but I'm quite alienated from that bunch as of late.

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks Okay, so I wasn't far from the mark at all then. So sorry for not guessing your specific communalisation terminology when calling out how ridiculous your stance on labour and pornography is. Glad we got past that!

Is there any further purpose to this conversation?

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I just said I am not a communiser but you were so insistent I gave you the label I last identified with, but I don't identify with them anymore.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I'm not upset at a "wrong guess" or whatever I'm upset at your gall of calling my worldview nonsensical and lunacy when it's clearly just your inability to properly engage with me.

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks
sounds very post-left, you're probably an Aquarius as well

@dagda @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks I'm not

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks
well gotta leave the space racism to the foids again

@dagda @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks what

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks
astrology

@dagda @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks that's not the part that confuses me it's more the "leave to the foids part" 😭

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks "Properly engage with" in this context is your way of saying you wish I'd had the conversation on your terms. God, arguing with people like you is always the same.

I'm going to take the answer to "is there any further purpose to this conversation" as "no, but if I stop replying first you might think you w-won!" Unless you've got anything more interesting (or sufficiently provocative!) to say I think I'm done here.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks can I kill you and study your brain it's very fascinating and I feel like I could learn a lot

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks No, but thanks for once again confirming your bizarre violent urges. They go so well with your bleeding-heart takes on the plight of the labour class.

@druid @Alsvid @fiore @snacks I fucking HATE the proletariat

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @druid @snacks
they seem to be the more competent space racists

@dangerdyke @nagirin @druid @snacks imean it is , but both bad taste and good taste people want to fuarrrk me . im just THAT irresistible . its hard being me , yknow .

@fiore @dangerdyke @druid @nagirin @snacks that sounds so stressful fiore, how do you cope

@nagirin @Alsvid @druid @snacks Das didnt have any pictures of buff men with red flags so i stopped reading :/

@fiore @Alsvid @druid @snacks Das Kapital wrote about capitalism, I thought Marx was supposed to be a communist, wtf??

@coolbean @dangerdyke @druid @nagirin @snacks its very hard but luckily it does give me very high self esteem so i can manage . still , its hard going out sometimes , i mostly do so at night so theres less ofa chance of people seeing me and swooning

@nagirin @Alsvid @druid @snacks COMMUNISTS OWNED

@fiore @Alsvid @druid @snacks This is why I'm not a communist fwiw

@nagirin @Alsvid @fiore @snacks so you can safely own them..... genius

@ikeWren @nagirin @Alsvid @snacks 6d chess

@ikeWren @Alsvid @fiore @snacks fuck you caught me

Local Man eats Citrussy-flavored Anastasia Gort, Fucking Dies of Stage 4 Butt Ranged Disorder

@Alsvid true and real

@fiore @nagirin @coolbean @druid @snacks fiore is Italy’s #1 chadette

@dangerdyke @nagirin @fiore @druid @snacks chuds and chadettes