linux “isn’t a social warrior project” and should only be evaluated on its technical merits? ok!

it’s a mediocre unix-like and the only reason why I use it is because of binary compatibility and drivers, things that linus didn’t contribute to the kernel in any way that matters for modern programs or hardware

if not for compatibility and drivers, I’d be on a BSD

since it’s not a “social warrior project” and the use of LLMs is going to make its codebase fucking unsustainable, I now struggle to technically differentiate the Linux kernel from the windows kernel in any way that matters

“oh no, you’ll miss out on all the Linux-only APIs red hat cooked up” yes please

you have no idea how massive some of the hacks behind your allegedly working desktop are til you try and build anything on red hat’s crap

thank you to the community for the parts of linux that don’t suck

fuck you to linus and a short list of corporations for the rest

I would legitimately not give a shit about linux and neither would anyone else, except that it’s a social collective of labor donated under an understanding that linus has violated

“just fork it if you’re not happy” said the guy who runs the social structure that makes an effective fork impossible to the people who did the social and technical labor that made him comfortably wealthy and extremely powerful

“just fork it if you’re not happy” said the head of the open source project that sucked the air out of all the alternatives, as large projects always do in open source spaces

Don't worry guys, I'm sure the handful of people working on GNU/Hurd will pull through while no one helps them at all.

@cy I’ve been one of them, and I can say clearly that helping is possible.

Any time I see a Quarter of the Hurd I am happy to see that structures I helped to build are still in use.

And it’s pretty awesome how much the handful of people working on the Hurd have achieved.

Most important for helping: use the Hurd. Play with it.

Build small tools that use its features. And talk about them.

An example:
https://www.draketo.de/software/hurd-authorization-translator

(that’s one I built)

Please tell me if you try it!

@zzt

@cy aside: insulting people for not liking the GNU project doesn’t help -- there are people with real grievances and there is a lot of very aggressive slander out there that intentionally plays on emotions of people.

And if you get a knee jerk reaction when someone insults GNU, you’ve been affected by that, too, causing you to react in ways that harm your known self-interest (because it causes the people you react to to dislike GNU more, not less).

@zzt

@zzt Everything built first at Red Hat is the worst version of that thing.

@ahills oh, no, that would be the canonicalware (don't forget to sign off your rights and your grandma via the CLA) @zzt

@mawhrin @ahills @zzt No, I have to disagree there. This is not my area, but the implementation of Snap is easy to understand compared to the baroque complexity of Flatpak. Upstart seemed smaller and cleaner than Systemd and gained adoption, even in RHEL. It's still in Chrome OS today. OStree is another Lovecraftian behemoth. Unity was a joy to use, while GNOME is computing in handcuffs. I could go on.

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@fiore nostalgua

@coolbean the snap take is . peculiar . unique , even

@fiore @coolbean literally out loud said "no???"

@fiore upstart a deprecated init being used by one project means that it’s good

@fiore @coolbean i dont even like flatpak but like. dude

@fiore @coolbean using Ubuntu on a test machine was very difficult because by default it had 50 loop networks and volumes which caused my boss to keep uninstalling tailscale since he thought that was the issue now matter how much I explained.

@fiore i want to point out on the post before that one, "systemd isn't perfect but it did nail the problem"

openrc, "the dependency based init system", was first released a year before systemd =w=

@navi @fiore systemd isn't perfect but it had rhel backing

@rose @fiore @navi not only rhel but the entire "cloud computing" establishment

@rose @fiore @navi systemd isn't perfect but at least it managed to do worse than sysvinit