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the tech literacy barrier to tech usage is good actually

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look where breaking those walls down got us

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@fiore i mostly agree because My God The Consequences but i also think having more things be accessible to disabled people is good
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@fiore Everyone should be like me: Skilled enough to fuck shit up, but unskilled enough to not be able to fix it.
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@aeweyrose idk couple Firstname Lastname on mastodon.social that i quote posted earlier made me think this

being a user sometimes means you need to know what youre using, and companies trying to make tech “seamless” is just a way for them to fish for users , make them depend on your stuff, brainwash them and then rugpull them, without them even realizing it

cult like behaviour

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@ikeWren accessible by disabled people != accessible by people that are easy to fall for corposlop tho . accessibility is good, always , but i wouldnt call the thing im on about “accessibility” , its more like . brainwashing

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@fiore
i worked with nincompoops who, in a slightly different world, would not be interested in being anywhere near a computer
wdym you don't know basic commandline syntax. you test software. you absolute station wagon.

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@fiore @ikeWren A lot of user friendly design is NOT universally accessible.
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@fiore @aeweyrose It's like, people calling MS Office user friendly. That stuff is not user friendly. People just press buttons until they can do something that looks like what they want. Many people just size up and embolden instead of using the header feature for example.

MS word is a mess, it is not user friendly, it's a user nightmare. They add a feature and it gets 0.2% user utilisation.. People don't know how to do anything without fumbling around in the dark. Programs that force you to actually read a manual make sure you know what the hell you're doing.

This is also the danger of AI assistants. I don't take as hard of a line as many against AI, but I absolutely believe that AI "assistants" is a disaster, it's another step in child proofing and training wheels. Which will lead to so much user error.
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@nagirin @fiore oh yeah for sure but it's generally MORE accessible than like . more arcane interfaces
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@ikeWren @fiore I guess? too broad to compare, susceptible to cherry picking
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@nagirin @fiore i also think it's worth saying that i am including learning disabilities here
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@ikeWren @fiore yeah, I don't think a lot of contemporary GUI "user friendly" apps are friendly in that regard, the overload of stuff in your face is extremely overwhelming
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@nagirin @fiore true i agree! to be clear i also think most modern "user friendly" design is a shitload of fuck
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@nagirin @fiore i just also think it's cool when my grandma can download an app and browse the internet
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@ikeWren @fiore I wish my grandma couldn't use the internet 😭😭
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@fiore ir would if they weren’t so fundamental to the modern world, as soon as there is a barrier someone will sell you slop to reduce it precisely because of how necessary computers are to things like taxes and applying for jobs

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@fiore yea turns out we shouldve gone for the educational route instead of dumbing down the technology itself
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@nagirin @fiore @aeweyrose yea turns out that forcing ppl to learn how to ride a bicycle is more useful than keeping the training wheels on forever
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@fiore @aeweyrose “if they don’t like it then they vote with their wallets” email in icloud, photos in icloud, all app purchases on the app store, subscriptions though the app store, passwords in icloud, you text people using imessage sure makes it easy doesn’t it

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@coolbean @fiore juno how do i confugure ppvwm my dotfiles are a willian lines long and i had to write every system file by myself but i jusr get this weird black and white pattern and a big ❌ mark when i turn on my computer. #mastodontips

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@lena @fiore fvwm? i dont know i gave up on it the configuration format is too convoluted for me i kept needing to check the manfile for really basic stuff which just wasnt enjoyable!
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@lena @fiore you dont learn fvwm, fvwm learns you. i just went back to cwm where the configuration is more comprehensible (if limited)
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@coolbean @fiore huh i just wote letters did i just name a real thing on accident

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@lena @fiore you used vwm which i interpreted as fvwm. ppvwm doesnt exist but that one does and i tried it for the past few days cause i was unhappy with some aspects of pekwm but turns out this is worse!
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@lena @fiore a court can gag order you therefore your speech is not, in fact, free
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@lena @fiore shuddup stop bullying me for being soy you are the one that sent the follow request
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@lena @fiore like unironically i do think raw tofu tastes better lmao
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@coolbean @fiore okay i forgot that germany is uncivilized backwards country you people love cooking epic bacon 7am in the morning and flooding my room with noxious gas and killing me and then for dinner you eat me and some guy name bernd who you also killed and crocodile meat and deer and some gamey shit with a side of dirt and raw potatoes becayse you too stupid to farm something. but beef is definitely the worst thing OKAY

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@coolbean @fiore sorry i got angry😇im ok and i didnt mean whatever i said

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@lena @fiore chicken is pretty good, duck is great and aside from that id rather just stick to tofu
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@fiore @lena also the raw potatoes thing is too soon (my mother fucking loves potatoes. weve had fried potatoe slices twice just this week)
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@lena @fiore i love rice but my mother doesnt and she also refuses to make it properly (washing the rice) because that reduces the nutrients :(
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@fiore @lena and like thats the compromise option. (i like the crispiness and ability to add lots of seasoning). she likes just basic boiled potato. it makes me sad
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@coolbean @fiore

Exhibit A.) System prompt embedded in various iOS 27 binaries: "A response that could be a paragraph in a textbook is a failure."

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