anyone saying “dont transition if uve already been through puberty” is a federal agent pushing a psyop U cannot fall for their lies TRANSITION WHENEVER . Theres no cutoff point where it stops being possible

that take is so funny to me cuz What ? Im supposed to transition before or during puberty ? How ? How is it even possible to get E at like age 13 ? U know how few people actually manage to do that ? that shit never made sense N it never will cuz anyone who pushes that point is fried out of their mind

@ellie There are people who transition in their 50s and feel happier ever since. It's never too late.

@ellie yeah, should be "try to get hrt before puberty" not "you're fucked if you didn't"

@ellie Why not have a second puberty?

@ellie @carbonated_estrogen I didn’t even know you COULD transition until well into adulthood when I met another trans person

@ellie anyone saying "don't transition" in any context is a federal agent pushing a psyop

@ellie look, I don't like to shit on anyone's parade and I like to let The Girls Have Fun as much as anyone else, but that's why I dislike 4tran /tttt/ culture a lot, like, PLEASE do not tell people they are youngshit passoids for passing early in a congratulatory sense, or giggle about Gigahon Late Age Honmaxxers, that shit just feeds this kind of nonsense

"it's all a big joke it's not serious" really. are you sure about that

@ellie i'm such a carelord about this kind of thing

@Alsvid @ellie it's all a kind of communal self-loathing under one layer of irony really

@ellie hell I started at 32 lol

@ellie federal agent glow so bright

@ellie or like, we wouldn't personally pick a fed as our first guess, but one way or another they are definitely a proponent of hatred. we have met people who started transition in their eighties and they were super clear that it was worth it, the best decision they ever made.

@ireneista me saying fed was not literal I just wanted to make fun of that genre of person lol . But yes

@Alsvid @ellie yeah it’s also funny how much people’s perceptions of whether i “look like a woman” in photos have so very little to do with whether people actually gender me as a woman in the real world

@ellie @ireneista yeah they're either a fed or doing the feds' work for free 🤡

@ireneista @raphaelmorgan no ya Ur gud i was just clarifying LOL

@raphaelmorgan @ellie yes, certainly. because we're an activist we find it useful to have a more granular model of these things, because understanding how the social structures we're at war with are put together helps us take them apart. in that model, we'd put most of these assholes in your second category (doing the work for free).

we realize that wasn't really the point or the context of the original remark, and didn't mean to disagree or start an argument.