@anarchautistic @scattapilla @imbl @YKantRachelRead no bueno

@imbl @scattapilla @YKantRachelRead the prosody displeases me. too many phonemes too

@itsmaya @scattapilla @imbl @YKantRachelRead unironically, yes

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla @imbl it's also a rick and morty reference x3

@YKantRachelRead @imbl @scattapilla I'm afraid you got pranked here sister

@YKantRachelRead @imbl @scattapilla lmao

@imbl @scattapilla @YKantRachelRead I agree with your assessment of what the problem is, but your preferred solution leaves me unsatisfied; not everyone I might possibly talk or refer to is a cuck, a queer, a fag, homo, slut etcetera. If they're not on the team, I don't want to address them as if they were, you know?

I really think a neologism is the only real solution to this problem

@itsmaya @scattapilla @YKantRachelRead I'm realizing a lot of these, plus what Rachel said, are either things I already say or adjacent to things I already say. for most people I talk to regularly I do have plenty of "you guys" alternatives that feel more natural to me than "y'all". but the problem is they're too specific and not generic enough to be universally applicable. I wouldn't call a group of random people "dearies" "lovelies" etc.

@itsmaya @scattapilla @YKantRachelRead ................"darlings"

@imbl @YKantRachelRead @scattapilla I don't really like "gal" as a fem equivalent either, a "gal" is not a blank slate to me, there are certain ineffable characteristics attached to "gal" (and plus it makes me feel like I'm larping as a cowgirl or something, similar to "y'all"). "girl" is close but it's still just a smidge more formal than "guy" in the same way that "boy" is

@imbl @scattapilla @YKantRachelRead that for me has very very specific connotations lol, I could never use that as a "guy" substitute. the whole point of a "guy"-equivalent term is that it implies default settings (certainly a conversation to be had about masc-implying-default of course, I'm sure plenty of ink has been spilt on that subject by much more articulate people than me, but I digress), like, "just some guy", implies nothing about their personality or what they're like or anything like that, it conjures up no particular feelings or imagery in your head, it's just a blank stick figure template on which you draw other characteristics and adjectives: "guy who likes movies" "short guy" "IT guy"

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla oh actually, I also use "gamers" and "chat" for this context lol. idk I'm ontologically cringe, people probably shouldn't talk like me x3

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla oh, I do use gender-neutral "girl" already :3
but that also has different connotations for me compared to guy!

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla "you folks" would almost cut it for the addressing-a-group case but, somehow that feels even more awkward for me to say than y'all, which already feels awkward enough and like I'm stealing valor x.x

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla yee, I think OP's complaint is about the lexical gap of there not really being a connotational equivalent of "guy" for girls and girlthings and other non-masc entities

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla like to me, "you guys" is gender neutral, but "a guy", "type of guy", etc. is masc basically

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla but dont get me wrong, I do /not/ want to be called a guy (although "you guys" is fine by me, but I nonetheless try to instead default to "y'all" but I feel fake and awkward with that despite having used it for years at this point)

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla "person" sounds so stiff and dull to me, and "folks" can't really be used in the singular form :/

@YKantRachelRead @scattapilla I honestly can't think of a single one actually, can you rattle some off? :o