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Like a lot of these days, I try to think about and alter the terms I use that rely on gendered words that have no need of being gendered. Terms like fireman, policeman, stewardess, man-eating tiger, etc., are improved by replacing the gender with a function. Firefighter. Police officer. Flight attendant. Magician-eating tiger.

Changing one's usage of these terms helps erode old barriers remaining from a less enlightened time, making the world a better place each time it is done. Looking out for and altering terms like this in one's usage is a very appropriate rule for one to set for oneself.

However, art often requires breaking rules.

Your Honor, I'd like to petition the court to allow exemptions for gendered language that perform poetic duties as part of a term or phrase, where substituting a non gendered word in its place removes part of the artistic flair that contributes to it being a commonly used adage.

For instance: the term "Man-in-the-Middle" is very nicely alliterative, which I believe plays a big part in its memorability, acceptance and usage, while "Person-in-the-Middle" sounds clunky and unappealing. Saying "Person-in-the-Middle" makes the entire process of ungendering language seem like a silly overreaction.

Some replacements with "person" come across like asking people to go see James Gunn's Superperson (2025), asking your carolling group to sing Frosty the Snowperson or asking someone if someone likes Vermeer's The Person with a Pearl Earring.

In conclusion, Your Honor, "Person-in-the-Middle" is terrible and its usage actually harms the very appropriate efforts to foster acceptance of the process of ungendering language. I believe that the alliteration present in the term " Man-in-the-Middle" makes the term artistic, and thus deserving of the same "ungendering not needed" waiver we provide for other artworks.

I rest my case.

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@nyquildotorg man-in-the-middle is fine because that's not a profession or an identity category. Superman is a fictional character who as far as I am aware has a straightforward masculine gender identity, so using gendered words for him is appropriate. Superman is not a profession or an identity category. Same applies to Frosty the Snowman in specific.

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@nyquildotorg Snowmen in the general case is an interesting predicament, because on one hand male-is-default is problematic, but on the other hand I agree that Snowperson is excessively politically correct especially considering that the reason young girls can never grow up to be Snowmen is not because of sexism but because they are embodied in flesh and are not made of snow.

However, I would like to point out that "the snow people" sounds mysterious and exciting.

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@nyquildotorg "we have summoned the snow people" > "we made snowmen"

"my house is surrounded by the snow people" > "there are snowmen in my yard"

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@nyquildotorg critically you can make ungendered language sound cooler, it mostly involves not thinking like a centrist politician

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re: Longish post, ungendering language
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@nyquildotorg
on the one hand, i feel like a lot of what makes "snowperson" sound bad comes from the fact that we've spent all our childhoods and more being psyop'd by mass media that in retrospect had one hell of an axe to grind about this stuff (or rather found its most superficial and crude caricature an excellent distraction from substantive issues of representation and bias)

on the other, it's obvious that substituting two syllables for one, along with a different initial consonant, in many contexts that originally alliterated, is going to give terrible sounding results (unless the original was already bad and you were delibrately choosing a more metrically and assonantly appropriate substitution)

but also dumb string searches are never going to give consistently good results for anything

but also "man" might be misleading in implying there's always a live person immediately involved when a lot of this stuff could be automated (and the speed and volume of the threat model that implies), which "person" would make even worse

anyway, "interception attack" is right there
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re: Longish post, ungendering language
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@nyquildotorg "Meddling Mallory"
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i'm avoiding suggesting anything for "snowman" because frankly the custom of stacking three large packed snowballs and then decorating it with various items as a very heavily conventionalized scarecrow-esque is so arbitrary and culturally specific i don't even know where to start

RE: https://kill-corporations.enterprises/objects/ab44f988-f473-4adf-8064-1bd876838326
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@apophis oh, i think you're onto something! After looking up a bit list of popular "unisex" names, I think I'm going to say "Max-in-the-Middle" lol

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@apophis two balls is also valid

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