I’m not even into incest lol but like come on why do people think it’s wrong, why do you care what two siblings do if they’re not gonna have a child. “Two sisters loving each other is deeply wrong” that’s like saying two women can’t love each other. You have no argument to back this up

@iro_miya the argument I heard is that it can lead to problems for a child if one is born (inbreeding is something that does actually cause issues in small isolated populations) but like genuinely I do not see the issue as long as they aren’t having kids lol

@soweliniko exactly. From what I know, a blood-related couple shouldn’t make a child. I think people can be trusted with that responsibility. Their relationship doesn’t have to be illegal just because the possibility of this happening. This is the 21st century, we have condoms and abortion. People are usually able to not have a child.

@iro_miya @soweliniko yeah absolutely
there can also be some weird power dynamics with a sibling relationship but, again, can be done in a safe and risk-aware way. It’s like saying that relationships with an age difference should be illegal

@iro_miya i wont ever get what is with everyone here that we’re all this desensetized to the point that people keep joking around and glorifying and fetishizing the most abusive traumatic shit that none of you have had to suffer through and live with

if you werent so retarded all of this would all go without saying but incest is Wrong because its a form of sexual abuse . consensual incest doesnt exist . i dont care whos doing it it involves abusive and manipulative power dynamics . i got no idea how so many people completely ignore all of the real life cases jthat inflict so much long lasting trauma and just casually bring it up as if it was so cute and sweet and entirely acceptable . like if it had no negative impact at all as long as they arent doing this or that gross thing. all because you found somee bitch ass incest doujin hot

has whatever porn addiction fucked you up so badly you think its all fine? cant you see how severely this impacts peoples? do you give a fuck about what any victim has to say? is everyone just that sheltered from whats happening that this has to be some stupid discourse .im tired of you all fuck uyou rseld go fuck off. if you ever fantasized about doing this shit you need some kind of support that a bunch of retardded faggots fighting eachother on the internet canyt help with

@iro_miya isnt the argument that they shouldnt have children kinda eugenics?

@cute_stuff @iro_miya it's generally not considered eugenics to avoid disability in children
like, it's not about some odd idea of genetic superiority, but directly about preventing suffering of the child
(same reason why I don't think women above a certain age shouldn't really have children)

@lisaki @iro_miya “generally not considered eugenics”, ehh its also not really considered eugenics to sterilize trans people in some parts of the world yet its bad for the same reasons

@cute_stuff you're right that was bad wording but honestly you could also just refer to the actual reasons I stated in addition

@lisaki are you also against genetically disabled people having kids?

@cute_stuff actually a really good question,,,
based on my previous statement I would have to say yes, otherwise it would seem quite arbitrary, but it does go against my intuition
I would go with the non-statement "it depends", but I'm honestly not sure what it depends on because I've never thought about this specific question before

@cute_stuff On one hand I have heard that it can cause very bad defects and that’s the popular wisdom, but I’ve also heard that’s actually very unlikely. I haven’t looked into it so my post was rather “if we put aside this possibility that I haven’t considered the morality of”. I am neither for or against incest couples having a child because I don’t know about the implications

@iro_miya I agree. As long as it's consensual, it's fine

@iro_miya @soweliniko And, you know, making things illegal because certain people breeding would introduce undesirable traits is *generally* not a good idea.

@flesh @soweliniko @iro_miya Makes it come off as very "slippery slope into eugenics", phrased that way.